NEW YORK -- Bob Reilly remembers the kid's body being put in a coffin, and the coffin getting hoisted into a beat-up van, and the van driving 150 miles on a dirt road until it reached the family's mud hut in an East Africa village. It was ages ago, in the 1970s, and the kid's name was John."He dropped dead running a 10,000-meter race," Reilly says now. "These tragedies happen in every sport. You can go out jogging and drop dead of a heart attack. But the purpose of sports is not to inflict injury. We can't ever forget that or what do we become? We become barbaric."
From a high school track coach in Uganda to New York State Assemblyman, Reilly's passion about sports and the role they play in society is unwavering. Depending who you talk to, he's either the voice of common sense and civility or a whimpering loser and coward who has his panties in a knotted bunch.
This Wednesday, Reilly, a Democrat representing Albany and Saratoga counties, will be the lead voice arguing against a bill that would regulate the sport of mixed martial arts in New York. Bill 2009-B needs 11 votes out of 21 members to make it out of the Committee on Tourism, Parks, Arts and Sports; if it passes, the bill then winds through two more committees before reaching the Assembly floor for a general vote. If Reilly has his way, MMA will remain banned in NY, no different than dog fighting or dialing-while-driving.
It's the government's job to protect the people -- that's why there are yellow lines down the road, and use-by-dates on milk cartons -- and Reilly is adamant MMA fosters "a culture of violence that is harmful to society." In an interview with FanHouse, Reilly repeated the questions he posed to his fellow committee members last June, when a bill to legalize combative sports such as MMA was rejected by the assembly. "Should we endorse cockfighting?" he asks. "Should we allow humans in a cage to knee, kick and punch each other for entertainment?"
Answers to these emotionally charged questions are varied and complex. Assemblyman Steven Englebright, the bill's chief sponsor, says it behooves the tourism committee to explore all aspects of the new sport, especially if it leads to revenue opportunities for a state wobbling under the weight of a recession. (New York's share of the gate has increased from 3 percent to 10 percent off last year's proposed bill.) Lawrence Epstein, Ultimate Fighting Championship's general counsel, notes that 37 states have passed rules regulating MMA, and the media capital of the world is the sport's logical, inevitable destination. Lobbyists point to a study that suggests fights located in Manhattan or Buffalo would bring New York millions of dollars.
High-profile fighters such as Matt Serra, the former UFC welterweight champion, say competing in a cage is a personal choice, with fighters assuming all risks. Even family and friends of Zack Kirk, the MMA fighter who recently suffered a broken neck and paralysis after crashing head-first into a mat during a takedown attempt, say it was a freak accident and the sport is not to blame.
Reilly, a high school teacher for a decade and a track coach for 26 years, understands he's up against powerful figures, in every sense of the word. But he insists New Yorkers have his back, citing a poll he commissioned amongst members of his district in which 67 percent of New York residents said they opposed legalizing MMA while 18 percent of the 468 participants said they favored bringing it to the state.
"There is overwhelming, widespread opposition to [MMA]," Reilly says. "Many of my constituents come up to say, 'You're doing the right thing. How can we have this?' It's a violent sport that is harmful and damaging. Violence begets violence. It helps create a culture in our society of domestic violence, of bullying, of violence against gays, of illegal gun use. It's the job of state legislatures to pass laws against that sort of stuff, and then we put something like ultimate fighting as our form of entertainment?"
He spins anecdotes like a basketball coach calling out plays, all fervor and gung-ho commitment. He tells the sad story of a man in his district who killed his wife, then committed suicide, another tale of violence begetting violence, though he offers no direct link to MMA. He says in Albany's city schools and on its streets, "the fights among young people, half the time it's girls, which I find a little more disturbing. That might sound sexist, excuse me. But it's no different than ultimate fighting, when I see one woman grab another woman by the head and knee her in the stomach.""I find that even more offensive than man doing that to man. I don't think we should show that to kids," Reilly says. "We don't want that in our schools. We legislate bullying and domestic violence all the time, but how can kids tell the difference when they're seeing it on TV, as a legitimate sport?"
"Economically, this is very bad for our state. We're constantly turning to gambling to fund our state," he adds. "I dispute what the UFC people say about why we should have this, that it would be a money maker. I think it will cost us more economically than it would help us."
Reilly's outspokenness has led to death threats, worrisome enough that the state police have stepped in. He won't go into detail, saying such hazards come with the business of being an elected official. "I have come across fighters who have been very respectful," Reilly says. "There are those who want to demonstrate their skills in the sport and there are fans who are basically over the top."
He has an athlete's heart, a runner's discipline. A man who coached cross country at Siena College for 17 years and is a member of the college's Hall of Fame is not a man who hates sports or fears competition. He sees a clear divide between mixed martial arts and full-contact sports such as boxing, football and wrestling. (As a boxing fan, he wishes it were forced to operate under amateur rules.) His only gripe is with the MMA, the sport "where damaging your opponent is one of the main goals."
"Are there any rule changes that would make it acceptable? Yes, there are, but from what I've read they're far away. Four or five years from now can we start moving this in a different direction ... and offer an alternative to sheer violence? I say yes."
Headgear and a scoring system that doesn't result in fighters getting whipped into a bloody pulp would be a start, Reilly says. And yes, to hardcore fans, he knows such rules make him a wimp. Still, he shows no signs of retreating against deep-pocketed lobbyists and Las Vegas-based tough guys such as Dana White, president of the UFC.
"Dana White is a ruthless person. I don't think that's the type of person we should do business with," Reilly says. "People still say that about Don King, with good reason. These types are very effective promoters. Don King left in his wake Mike Tyson and people like that, people cast aside."
Brave voice or out-of-touch sissy? To sideline observers, one thing is sure: Reilly is one politician not afraid to rattle the cage.











Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
6-02-2009 @ 12:34AM
PacoGerte said...
MMA is better regulated than boxing, safer than the fake pro wrestling, and encourages atheletes to be at least as disciplined as college wrestlers - most MMAers are college educated. People fear what they don't understand, and what your average politician doesn't understand about regular folk is baffling.
MMA is not human cock-fighting - it's an elevated sport.
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6-02-2009 @ 1:16AM
kwilbur10 said...
agreed my friend. he calls dana so many names and calls the sport a bloodsport and cockfighting. but he has yet to ever talk to dana nor the fertitas, and he hasn't even seen an MMA event. so something tells me he has a thing for boxing. in an interview with some chick on yahoo (i believe, not entirely sure) reilly was saying how much boxing has grown this that and the other. he was praising boxing soo much, but when asked one MMA question he completely shut down. he disregarded the question and pretty much ended the interview. so what i don't understand is why isn't he even giving MMA a chance.
6-02-2009 @ 7:30AM
bracca1968 said...
Speaking of educated fighters. My man Rich Franklin was actually a math teacher here in Ohio. These guys are smart and know what they are doing and yes it is pretty safe even though you see guys knocked completely out. No standing 8 count so they can continue to fight and possibly get really hurt.
6-02-2009 @ 9:48AM
toddpugz said...
mma is regulated? just like dog-fighting was "regulated" by mike vick.
6-02-2009 @ 3:39PM
dtenore said...
Toddpugz, the only comment to your post is acknowledgment that you are a total jackass. If you don't know what you're talking about, say nothing.
This Bob Reilly is grandstanding, as politicians do. MMA will be allowed in New York when the right people are appropriately bribed. Same story, new business, modern mob (now in government).
6-02-2009 @ 1:18AM
Bernie said...
This is a terrible article. You present the man as someone who is passionate and reasonable when it comes to his opinions of sports and yet he says that MMA is "human cock-fighting". That's not an educated or logical statement.
MMA has been shown to have fewer serious injuries than many major sports this old man supposedly loves.
Does New York allow BJJ, Boxing, Kick boxing, grappling, wrestling (real), and martial arts competitions? If it does then there is no reason to disallow MMA which is merely a combination of those disciplines.
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6-02-2009 @ 2:08AM
surfboards said...
This guy sounds more angry and mean and more close minded than most MMA fighters, how ironic is that.
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6-02-2009 @ 2:28AM
Matthew said...
This guy is an asshole. He constantly draws comparisons to atrocious things like dog fighting or cock fighting, and then doesn't tell you why MMA is like those things. You can sway a survey of YOUR constituents anyway you want, but if you don't have a problem with boxing you don't really have an argument
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6-02-2009 @ 7:24AM
bracca1968 said...
This guy is an idiot and so are those that think MMA should be banned. It's not like these guys and a few girls are forced to fight like dogs and cocks. They do it for fun, money and entertainment of the people. My 16 year old son has been watching it as long as I have and he doesn't crave beating people up. Any desire he might have to fight goes away playing the new ufc game. I say he is a pussy who probably got whipped a lot in his life and now that he has the power he wants to punish good people. The only reason kids are violent these days is because of their parents. ADD and ADHD are not medical problems it's drug companies pushing more drugs to dope up the kids and fatten their wallets. Parents need to punish their kids like we were as kids. My father beat me a few times(yes, I deserved every bit) and it straightened me out. MMA is no more brutal than a lot of sports out there. More people get hurt worse playing football and it's widely accepted. I will continue to fight(legally) as long as my body will hold out and there's nothing anyone can do about it.
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6-02-2009 @ 7:49AM
Kris said...
time to ban rap music then - it promotes violence and degredation of women
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6-02-2009 @ 8:03AM
emike1972 said...
It's been this way since the dawn of time. At least the loser isn't killed now a days. It is a sport and always will be. Better to regulate it and reap the rewards, then to ban it and suffer the consequences anyway. Mixed Martial Arts is here to stay.
Isn't the point of boxing to strike your opponent in the head and face as often as possible? How much does the state make off of boxing events (as lame as they are)??
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6-02-2009 @ 8:13AM
Gary said...
Bob Reilly has become what he always claimed he would never do...he has become a POLITICIAN... and he caters to the liberal views on everything... that means controlling our lives in every way possible. Sorry, Bob...that's not what we want from our "leaders"...we need people to run government efficiently...and pass a sane, fiscally-sound budget. That's it.
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6-02-2009 @ 8:24AM
Frederick said...
I have been reading more and more about the subject. I get the feeling reporters are not taking the right approach. It seems to be more politics then rules.
Google "Station casinos Unite Here MMA"
We can talk about the rules all we want but I get a feeling rules have nothing to do with it
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6-02-2009 @ 8:23AM
bthread said...
It is very interesting how this guy looks at the sport and the culture it assembles. Then you look at the responses you guys have put in play. Look at the language. Can you see why people want nothing to do with MMA when you foul mouthed folks are it's representatives. Funny how blind you are.
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6-02-2009 @ 9:18AM
Buckeyes Fans said...
you say because of their comments it's no wonder mma is banned there. i guess we should ban every major sport in new york then because i've seen and heard comments nba, nfl, mlb and nhl players that are a hell of a lot worse then any comment here. your just an ignorant liberal.
6-02-2009 @ 8:46AM
ddough7156 said...
you guys just like it because its homoerotic... two grown men in there underwear rolling around on the floor?
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6-02-2009 @ 8:56AM
tim outlaw said...
i think politicians in new york need to grow the #$$%^%$#%$# up and get over ur little acts of polictically correctness . there are many mma fans in the new york area and it would bring in revenue its no worse than the fake ass wrestling and you all let that in ur state or boxing people that promotes violence to why dont we just put a big ass fence around the state of new york and keep all the bad things aout that people enjoy grow up u stupid ^&*^%&^%&^%
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6-02-2009 @ 9:36AM
Sara said...
You're such an idiot. I know people who are in MMA and they are far from fags. Try getting into the cage with someone who can knock over two coke machines with one push and then make your stupid little comment. MMA is a sport that requires discipline and technique. If you knew anything about the sport you would know that.
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6-03-2009 @ 4:35PM
your mom said...
They just act big and strong around you to get in your pants and it sounds like it is working. If you got off your back for a moment and got to know the "fighters" you would see that they are the idiots. I hope you use protection.
6-02-2009 @ 9:49AM
captaindiehard said...
He's just mad because it was a Boston boy and not a New Yorker.....that is bringing this sport to a great level. :) Go Dana Go!
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